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what's up everybody happy friday we got

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the best time

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happy you guys are with me today i

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appreciate it i've had a long string of

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uh videos this week

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so um

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i'm glad you're here tuning in because

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we save the best for last we have danny

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silva danny silva on today uh from

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silver record

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if you remember i think it was earlier

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in the week we covered this uh briefly

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it was a silver record

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dot com the bass awesome niagara falls

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ufo case

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um mr dana put this out uh june 3rd 2022

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uh if you haven't read it you should

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read it

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just go to silverrecord.com it's pretty

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great and he's got links to videos and

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all that which we watched on this

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channel not too long ago

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so hang tight and we'll be back and

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all right new intro hope you guys liked

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it

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bring in uh the man the myth the legend

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mr

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danny silva how are you today sir what's

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up man doing good how are you

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good

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yeah i got the nash you gotta represent

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it might be it might be a huge flop who

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so yeah i mean that's a maybe that's a

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that's a good way to start so you had

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the nasa news uh yesterday coming out

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just everything's been happened so fast

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all of a sudden you hear there's going

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to be a congressional hearing and then

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congressional hearing

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then all of a sudden there's a nasa

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press release and like literally minutes

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they're doing like a media press release

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which i thought was better than the

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actual uh written one

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but um did you have time to look into it

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at all to listen to the media

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uh press release what do you think

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i didn't hear the

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the audio thing no i saw the article and

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i saw everyone commenting on it it's

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kind of like uh all this stuff other

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stuff that's going on where

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it's good movement at the same time it's

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started looking into this give me a

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hundred thousand but i guess it's just

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the beginning thing

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but at the same time it's awesome

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because we can bring it you know it's a

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tool for us as advocates

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and activists and and to bring it to the

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public and say hey look uh you know nasa

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is looking at this on the books now

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um where they're you know not lying

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about it even though they've been doing

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it for decades and decades and all kinds

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of other things

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um so it's mixed feelings like all this

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other stuff that's going on with the

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you know at the end of the day it's

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positive movement because they're

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a little bit more transparent now

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like a kid in a room just like opening

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starting to peek out just a little you

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wide up yeah just come on let's do this

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they're you know kind of lying already

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this stuff are putting these people in

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these positions that may not know what's

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see what's there because they know

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they're going to find something

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compartmentalized and you know big huge

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lying somebody is but it may not be the

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there's all these layers to all these

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government agencies and uh we know lots

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more is has been going on for a long

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long time than they're saying

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your website how long have you been

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working on that now i mean you took a

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it was 2018. i'm not sure now i can't

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a lot of other people are writing now

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there's a lot more people involved back

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then it was only me and like

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adam goldstack and like just a few other

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being a jerk and digging in all his of

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his stuff and then airing it out to the

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public that he probably someone that he

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didn't even want the public to know

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stalker detective and uh but he's been

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doing all these interviews himself now

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speaking and it was kind of kind of like

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took that away from me um

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son of a [\h__\h] and also i just get

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a politician even mentioned ufos

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opinion pieces as much either

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um so i don't really do a lot of those

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been on social media more blogging less

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but we'll see what happens it's kind of

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yeah you kind of got to do what you want

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to do when you have the time i suppose

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like a lot of people forget at least

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that uh you know don't write stuff or do

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podcasts or whatever you know people

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forget that you know we don't get really

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we don't get paid for this stuff and we

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have day jobs and we have to take care

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of ourselves and not go on 36-hour fasts

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like you you know and stuff stuff like

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that so you know we got to be able to

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fit this stuff in uh when we can

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uh for sure but uh you were definitely

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breaking ground you know at the time

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not really many people are so how does

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you know to think about that time and to

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about it talking about it politicians

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feel are you satisfied with you know how

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things are turning out did you see

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things turning out differently or did

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you have no expectations

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highest of expectations there's been

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bumps in the road and then there's also

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to the stars academy was going to like

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build a ship because they said they were

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so that was all down of course um

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everything lou and chris mellon and the

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stars really has tried to do as worked

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um you know that i could go down the

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list of things you know we wanted more

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just weren't from you know like the

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government quote unquote really they're

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basically everything that lube has done

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louis ando and chris and george and

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jeremy and all these other people

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unnamed behind the scenes that we don't

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really talk about j stratton's one of

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them um everything is basically work if

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you can just look at the trajectory of

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where we were from where we are

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now so everything was worked um and i

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wanted to make sure the public wasn't

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scared and not only is the public not

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scared but a lot of the public probably

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just doesn't even care anymore still

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yeah basically everything has worked man

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and um there has been bumps in the road

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anything has really gone anything but

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right and uh even some of the biggest

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detractors of elizondo and these guys

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are now like his biggest friends

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um which is pretty telling that he's

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flip these dudes into liking it uh one

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of them would be jimmy church

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hey

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[Laughter]

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yeah that's that's interesting but

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i guess in the end at least uh at least

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he's supporting the cause you know

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exactly

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and i did

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i did a show with dave scott the other

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day jimmy was on there i was on with

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jimmy you know i'm i don't have anything

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against him he's uh

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he's big up in lou now and he's saying

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how great they are and uh

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so that's fine

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i don't have to

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continue these battles for years and

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it's funny um a lot of those guys you

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know they blocked me there they hated me

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at the time

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for sticking up for lou and then lou

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yeah how does that work i don't

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understand

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the the ufo politics are pretty bizarre

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sometimes it doesn't really make a whole

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lot of sense but

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you just got to do the best you can do

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do the right thing lead with integrity

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and hope things work out i suppose

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um to backtrack a little bit the the

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niagara falls case

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um

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tell me a little bit about how you ran

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into that story i think the new

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information there is

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uh that it was awesome or bass case

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correct

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and there was um

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people documenting that over the years

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in smaller ways or even bigger ways and

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i i didn't really notice too much

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um i guess i wasn't on top of it as much

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as i should have been

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um and then uh

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dave um

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tipped me off on it recently and i

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started to get into it i asked around

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about it like i do

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you know

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unnamed sources people hate them but uh

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and i was able to confirm that bass was

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there so um ufo incidents and stories

334
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and things like that are interesting to

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me

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know bass and asap and etip did because

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if they were interested in it it

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gives me another level of interest it

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brings it to a whole nother

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kind of thing for me and um since they

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took it so seriously bass did it's what

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made it interesting for me

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and i found out that they had uh i was

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able to confirm

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um that they dispatched you know uh

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agents or whatever you want to call them

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employees

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of bass um to niagara falls after that

349
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they were interacting with witnesses i

350
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spoke to some of the witnesses that were

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there

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um interestingly enough it's kind of

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funny some of the uh

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witnesses weren't trusting these fast

355
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guys like they were looking at them like

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they were kind of like men in black in a

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way they were it depends on your

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definition of what men in black are but

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if it's a

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government contractor that's studying

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ufos

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if that's your definition of men in

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black then yeah they were men in black

364
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and they kind of descended on the town

365
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they were getting videos getting

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testimony there was a ton of witnesses

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um

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you know do i know for sure it was a ufo

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no

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of course uh twitter and the ufo

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community is

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immediately debunking uh the videos

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um

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one guy that i actually uh respect his

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work and like him he told me one of the

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videos was

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a pillar of light reflection and the

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other video was a uh

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lens flare

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i'm like don't you don't you gotta pick

381
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one or the other like yeah it's the same

382
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thing that's a video and a panda fake

383
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i just thought that was interesting that

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it was like

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two different debunker theories on two

386
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different videos of the same incident

387
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because you know oftentimes we don't

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have multiple angles of

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these incidents and this one there's

390
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like tons of multiple angles which makes

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it more compelling

392
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yeah

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that people could watch there one was

394
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um definitely

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had

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at

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um

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and i

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you know it's interesting

400
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the the way you talk about it of course

401
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that the bunkers are gonna come out and

402
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and say their thing about it

403
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and because of that you you put in the

404
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article like hey listen

405
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i'm not saying it's alien or anything

406
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like that

407
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it's just yeah just look at the video

408
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what she really shouldn't have to say

409
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you know it's not

410
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you're not coming out there and going

411
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and the alien spacecraft was caught in

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niagara falls you know you're just going

413
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it's a ufo it's an unidentified flying

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object you know people got video of it

415
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is what it is bass investigated it uh

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asap they obviously had a

417
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a deal with uh dia the contract

418
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of looking into this stuff so it there

419
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must be something to it at least so and

420
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i thought it was a good piece and i

421
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think it was definitely worth writing so

422
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you know thanks for doing that

423
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um yeah i think i mean and it went up to

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change the defense intelligence like you

425
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said so

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it's it's interesting and it's

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compelling and they really thought

428
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something was to it um and once again i

429
00:15:43,350 --> 00:15:40,959
think the debunker stuff or even just

430
00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:43,360
the skeptic stuff which is fine and okay

431
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uh they don't have access to all the

432
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files right right

433
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and

434
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you know they're making uh

435
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but at the same time

436
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they don't have access to it so i

437
00:16:02,150 --> 00:16:00,160
understand why they're doing it because

438
00:16:03,509 --> 00:16:02,160
it's not public it'd be really cool if

439
00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:03,519
we could get uh

440
00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:05,680
a dump of all those bass files you know

441
00:16:10,790 --> 00:16:09,120
there's been rumors over the weeks of uh

442
00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:10,800
all that other bad stuff some of it did

443
00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:12,720
come out about that indiana case that

444
00:16:17,749 --> 00:16:15,440
was real crazy and spooky yeah that was

445
00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:17,759
like a haunted house case yeah it was

446
00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:19,920
insane man it was scary but i was just

447
00:16:23,030 --> 00:16:21,360
like all the bad stuff to come out one

448
00:16:24,069 --> 00:16:23,040
day would be amazing and all the awesome

449
00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:24,079
stuff and

450
00:16:26,550 --> 00:16:25,360
i don't know if it will but we know that

451
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they have their database i've written

452
00:16:29,829 --> 00:16:28,000
about their database

453
00:16:31,110 --> 00:16:29,839
and if we had that maybe you know the

454
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skeptics would have more to go on and

455
00:16:35,189 --> 00:16:33,279
they'd see the investigations that these

456
00:16:37,829 --> 00:16:35,199
guys were doing it feels like you some

457
00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:37,839
of the skeptics on ufo twitter or ufo

458
00:16:41,670 --> 00:16:40,000
community they'll be like acting like

459
00:16:43,030 --> 00:16:41,680
assaf was like a joke and a bunch of

460
00:16:44,150 --> 00:16:43,040
like clowns or something when they're

461
00:16:45,910 --> 00:16:44,160
doing like

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massive things i mean they're rolling in

463
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:48,160
hard like men in black and like black

464
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suvs and they have all this ghostbuster

465
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equipment and stuff and uh yeah taking

466
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themselves really seriously

467
00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:56,079
and these uh skeptics are just over here

468
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on the internet

469
00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:58,800
not actually with boots on the ground

470
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and they're they're uh they're so sure

471
00:17:06,870 --> 00:17:03,440
it reminds me of the freaking robertson

472
00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:06,880
panels 1953 man i mean they specifically

473
00:17:11,669 --> 00:17:09,280
uh set out to train and debunk videos

474
00:17:14,390 --> 00:17:11,679
take what was a mystery and then uh

475
00:17:16,829 --> 00:17:14,400
debunk it you know to the public make it

476
00:17:20,789 --> 00:17:16,839
take take the special aura away from

477
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:20,799
ufos you know and we see the same exact

478
00:17:24,949 --> 00:17:23,360
thing right now today with different

479
00:17:26,789 --> 00:17:24,959
people doing that even on the

480
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congressional hearings

481
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they took what was a mystery the the

482
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pyramid video and tried to debunk it in

483
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front of the entire american public you

484
00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:36,799
couldn't be more robertson panel than

485
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than that right there that's exactly

486
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what they wrote about in 1953 and the

487
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frustrating part is they act like we're

488
00:17:47,510 --> 00:17:46,000
idiots like we don't like we don't know

489
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:47,520
any better like we don't know that

490
00:17:50,789 --> 00:17:49,360
they've done that you know and that they

491
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still do that

492
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and you know but you can tell and you

493
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probably feel this way too that that

494
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it's splitting you know like that

495
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they're starting to fail their tactics

496
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aren't working

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you know like they used to because um

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the

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uh

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you know

501
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not

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you know there's enough proof

503
00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:17,280
now to where if you want to try to

504
00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,000
debunk ufos the burden of proof is on

505
00:18:24,390 --> 00:18:22,160
you at this point because there is

506
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enough proof that ufos are real what

507
00:18:28,470 --> 00:18:27,039
they are maybe not but

508
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you know it depends who you talk to i

509
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:30,400
guess but ufos

510
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uh are real and if you want to be a

511
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debunker

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your job is a whole lot more difficult

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right now

514
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so

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uh what do you

516
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what do you see happening

517
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well actually what i wanted to do if you

518
00:18:50,070 --> 00:18:47,520
don't mind i wanted to bring up uh the

519
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niagara falls video if that's okay

520
00:18:53,430 --> 00:18:51,039
sure

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check it out

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thank you very much

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i don't know what spicy olive is but

524
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:21,430
i don't know what that is but it's not

525
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moving and it's reflecting off of it

526
00:19:33,029 --> 00:19:30,950
thank you very much thank you mr joe

527
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thank you on behalf of germany let's

528
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leave this up this is actually pretty

529
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good thank you uh senator reid remember

530
00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:38,240
this one thank you all for being here

531
00:19:45,669 --> 00:19:43,750
you know i've been in and out as i've

532
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,679
attended other committee hearings and i

533
00:19:49,990 --> 00:19:47,760
sort of feel like

534
00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:50,000
um

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00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,280
the most important facts

536
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:54,960
yeah

537
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for us and the american people

538
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understand are the facts that

539
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,480
haven't been

540
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said today

541
00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:04,559
and the reason why they haven't been is

542
00:20:09,430 --> 00:20:07,520
that they are largely classified

543
00:20:13,430 --> 00:20:09,440
and the reason that's important is that

544
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:13,440
the american people have no idea

545
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:15,919
really no idea

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00:20:23,430 --> 00:20:19,200
about the immensity of the threat

547
00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:25,430
and i've made this comment it's kind of

548
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,400
scary a classified setting

549
00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:31,200
that i wish the american people could be

550
00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:32,840
present in this

551
00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:34,480
room

552
00:20:43,990 --> 00:20:39,919
because

553
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:44,000
our adversaries know what they are doing

554
00:20:49,190 --> 00:20:46,960
we know what they are doing

555
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,200
they know we know

556
00:20:53,590 --> 00:20:51,039
what they are doing

557
00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:53,600
but the american people have no idea

558
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:54,880
and so

559
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:56,559
this yeah

560
00:20:59,909 --> 00:20:58,880
i wonder

561
00:21:02,470 --> 00:20:59,919
you know

562
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:02,480
he's i wish i was in there too

563
00:21:05,909 --> 00:21:04,000
yeah

564
00:21:06,789 --> 00:21:05,919
it makes us excited writing some skiff

565
00:21:09,909 --> 00:21:06,799
and

566
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mean a lot of people thought he was

567
00:21:13,590 --> 00:21:11,760
talking about you know ufos aliens or

568
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:13,600
whatever it is um

569
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:15,280
i'm not 100 sure he could have been

570
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:16,559
talking about just

571
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:18,640
like the space or stuff you know the

572
00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,159
satellites and

573
00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:22,480
energy weapons and things but it kind of

574
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:23,520
seemed like he was talking about the

575
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,840
phenomenon right

576
00:21:28,390 --> 00:21:27,360
sure but um

577
00:21:29,190 --> 00:21:28,400
it seemed like

578
00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:29,200
but

579
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:31,200
if i was a skeptic too though you know

580
00:21:34,390 --> 00:21:32,320
he could have just been talking about

581
00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:34,400
energy weapons in space blasting out

582
00:21:38,390 --> 00:21:35,760
satellites

583
00:21:41,270 --> 00:21:38,400
we're gonna be in a lot of trouble in

584
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,280
our day-to-day life yeah that's for sure

585
00:21:44,789 --> 00:21:44,000
that's for sure so um going back to

586
00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:44,799
sorry

587
00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:46,640
that video always pops up for me when

588
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:48,080
i'm done with another video so i was

589
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:49,440
like i'm just gonna freaking watch this

590
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:54,070
yeah

591
00:21:57,990 --> 00:21:56,480
um with the niagara falls video were you

592
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:58,000
have you been able to talk to any of the

593
00:22:01,669 --> 00:22:00,080
witnesses or anything yeah i spoke to

594
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:01,679
some of the witnesses they contacted me

595
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:04,080
and i contacted i contacted them

596
00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:06,000
um there's a few others i want to talk

597
00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:06,880
to

598
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:16,640
we're talking like triple digits and uh

599
00:22:20,549 --> 00:22:18,320
yeah um

600
00:22:22,149 --> 00:22:20,559
uh so i don't know you know there's

601
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:22,159
other weird stories of things that were

602
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,520
happening

603
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:25,440
after that

604
00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:27,840
that i don't know if it's just ufo

605
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,640
community weirdness but uh

606
00:22:34,630 --> 00:22:32,640
i don't know and you know the skeptic

607
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:34,640
argument was that those pillars of light

608
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:36,080
are basically like ice crystals or

609
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:37,440
something like that so they would be

610
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:39,360
reflecting the lights off of them you

611
00:22:42,310 --> 00:22:41,200
know i thought that was more compelling

612
00:22:43,909 --> 00:22:42,320
when they were saying that it was

613
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:43,919
reflecting off because

614
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:45,280
you know how to how would a light

615
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,760
reflect other light off of it

616
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:49,200
unless there was something actually up

617
00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:51,840
there and i'm not you know a scientist

618
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:53,600
or i don't have a you know i'm not a

619
00:22:57,029 --> 00:22:55,200
weather expert but apparently like you

620
00:22:58,950 --> 00:22:57,039
can have ice crystals in the sky i don't

621
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:58,960
know it seems far-fetched to me but who

622
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:01,280
really knows and maybe it is um

623
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,880
but yeah a lot of people saw this thing

624
00:23:05,270 --> 00:23:04,320
a lot of people from a lot of different

625
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:05,280
angles

626
00:23:08,870 --> 00:23:06,720
and uh

627
00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:08,880
it's incredible took us seriously enough

628
00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:10,640
to dispatch out there

629
00:23:14,149 --> 00:23:13,200
and start interviewing them all so

630
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,159
i

631
00:23:17,990 --> 00:23:16,400
you know when

632
00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:18,000
you let people talk about like mass

633
00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:19,440
sightings we don't have mass sightings

634
00:23:24,149 --> 00:23:22,240
anymore here it seems like we have one

635
00:23:26,549 --> 00:23:24,159
and it kind of

636
00:23:28,789 --> 00:23:26,559
i like i didn't even know about it until

637
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:28,799
you you posted that sure it was in

638
00:23:32,310 --> 00:23:31,360
unidentified like one of the episodes in

639
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:32,320
the show

640
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:34,559
but that came out a while ago i don't

641
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,799
remember that you know yeah and then

642
00:23:40,390 --> 00:23:38,880
they had uh some bad information on you

643
00:23:42,070 --> 00:23:40,400
know in all fairness unidentified had

644
00:23:45,110 --> 00:23:42,080
bad information about it

645
00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,120
you know had that guy from phenomenon ai

646
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:48,000
saying that it could have been a uh

647
00:23:50,789 --> 00:23:49,679
cgi or something but they didn't mention

648
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,799
that there was like a bunch of different

649
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:52,080
angles

650
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:54,480
and um i i'm actually confused about

651
00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:56,080
that because uh

652
00:23:59,830 --> 00:23:57,360
you would think lou would have known

653
00:24:02,070 --> 00:23:59,840
about the asap uh

654
00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:02,080
uh study into this

655
00:24:05,110 --> 00:24:03,039
right i guess it would have been

656
00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:05,120
classified so he couldn't talk about it

657
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:06,400
um but i think at the end of the day

658
00:24:11,510 --> 00:24:07,679
probably it would it was up to the

659
00:24:15,110 --> 00:24:13,350
but um i think that they would have like

660
00:24:17,269 --> 00:24:15,120
focused on it a little bit more but

661
00:24:18,870 --> 00:24:17,279
maybe that maybe they did and i just hit

662
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:18,880
the cutting room floor or something like

663
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,000
that

664
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:22,159
well we should get as many witnesses as

665
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,320
possible we'll line up a stream and

666
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:26,080
we'll just bring them in one after the

667
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,080
other and i can see some of them your

668
00:24:31,990 --> 00:24:30,720
way um here's a few of them and uh

669
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:32,000
there was actually like a lot of

670
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,559
discussion on it um on social media at

671
00:24:38,070 --> 00:24:36,240
the time you know it's been

672
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:38,080
over a decade now but there's like a lot

673
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:39,520
of people there's other youtubers that

674
00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:41,200
were focusing on it

675
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:43,039
a lot of uh

676
00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:44,080
uh

677
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:45,600
things like that a lot of arguing a lot

678
00:24:48,710 --> 00:24:47,520
of people going back and forth

679
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,720
all the same stuff working now but it

680
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,400
was a lot bigger at the time

681
00:24:53,990 --> 00:24:52,240
um so a lot of people you could probably

682
00:24:56,230 --> 00:24:54,000
still track down and do a show on that

683
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:56,240
and just get yeah it might be cool

684
00:24:59,269 --> 00:24:58,320
yeah i think it'd be worth it especially

685
00:25:01,990 --> 00:24:59,279
like

686
00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:02,000
you know let's say we get a hundred it

687
00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:03,679
would just prove a point even if the

688
00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:06,400
show went on for five hours to have 100

689
00:25:10,710 --> 00:25:08,480
witnesses say something about the

690
00:25:12,310 --> 00:25:10,720
freaking thing that they saw like come

691
00:25:14,549 --> 00:25:12,320
on man

692
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:14,559
you know you don't have a hundred people

693
00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:16,799
uh talking about you know something

694
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:19,600
prosaic uh like that and and

695
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,240
being confused you know it's just uh

696
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:24,240
that those times are over

697
00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:27,360
you know can i see maybe the ice crystal

698
00:25:31,110 --> 00:25:29,520
thing the lens flare thing makes a lot

699
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,120
less sense to me because the lens flare

700
00:25:35,350 --> 00:25:33,520
means you're just recording a blank part

701
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:35,360
of the sky

702
00:25:37,990 --> 00:25:36,240
uh

703
00:25:39,830 --> 00:25:38,000
and then later on it shows up in your

704
00:25:42,230 --> 00:25:39,840
phone so why was that dude even

705
00:25:44,230 --> 00:25:42,240
recording the sky

706
00:25:46,310 --> 00:25:44,240
exactly looking there and then it was

707
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:46,320
suddenly a lens flare after the fact it

708
00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:47,600
doesn't make sense to me maybe it was

709
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:48,720
ice crystals i don't know though that

710
00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,480
makes more sense but

711
00:25:53,990 --> 00:25:52,080
still i don't know

712
00:25:56,070 --> 00:25:54,000
yeah i don't know it seems when the when

713
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:56,080
the spotlights hit the thing it's

714
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,919
hitting an object maybe possibly a

715
00:26:04,230 --> 00:26:01,279
type of uh

716
00:26:05,909 --> 00:26:04,240
you know like a a metal object because

717
00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:05,919
when it gets it there's a big bright

718
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:07,840
light as well so

719
00:26:10,549 --> 00:26:08,799
yeah

720
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:10,559
pretty nuts well thanks for doing that

721
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:13,679
you you plan on um doing more stories or

722
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:14,960
just like doing your thing and if

723
00:26:18,390 --> 00:26:16,960
something comes it comes otherwise

724
00:26:20,470 --> 00:26:18,400
yeah that's nice

725
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,480
now if something comes it comes um i do

726
00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:22,799
have one more uh i have a few um i have

727
00:26:26,470 --> 00:26:24,640
ideas about that i'd like to write about

728
00:26:28,310 --> 00:26:26,480
you know back then i was trying to pump

729
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:28,320
one out like once a week and i had like

730
00:26:32,230 --> 00:26:30,480
that pressure on me every week and i i'm

731
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,240
working so hard on my day job and i just

732
00:26:36,390 --> 00:26:34,320
get beat down with it you know so much

733
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:36,400
with life and stuff and

734
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:38,720
i just i took that pressure off myself

735
00:26:42,149 --> 00:26:40,799
also because like i said um

736
00:26:43,909 --> 00:26:42,159
some of the things i used to write about

737
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,919
aren't as interesting to me anymore just

738
00:26:47,430 --> 00:26:45,600
because we're in a different space i'm

739
00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:47,440
in a different mental space and i think

740
00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:49,360
the community is in a different space

741
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:50,400
also

742
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:51,679
um

743
00:26:55,029 --> 00:26:53,039
but yeah i have a few things i'd like to

744
00:26:57,350 --> 00:26:55,039
write about um and kind of shine a light

745
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:57,360
on um that one the niagara fall stuff

746
00:26:59,909 --> 00:26:58,880
just kind of fell to my lap and it was

747
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,919
interesting

748
00:27:03,350 --> 00:27:01,440
but uh yeah i'm

749
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:03,360
i always have feelers out and i'm trying

750
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,000
to talk to people um

751
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,760
and you can get an idea of what's going

752
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:09,279
on and if sometimes if i think it's

753
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:11,440
interesting enough or worth it to share

754
00:27:14,549 --> 00:27:12,880
with the community i'll do it and other

755
00:27:16,630 --> 00:27:14,559
times i'm just tweeting

756
00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:16,640
crap and making jokes and just trying to

757
00:27:19,990 --> 00:27:18,880
live my life and have fun but uh

758
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,000
yeah that's something right now that i'm

759
00:27:24,070 --> 00:27:22,559
working on and we'll see if uh

760
00:27:25,830 --> 00:27:24,080
if i could get some solid info about it

761
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:25,840
and share with the community as well

762
00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,720
cool that'd be awesome um now we had

763
00:27:33,190 --> 00:27:31,200
those uh congressional hearings

764
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,200
and one of the things that was mentioned

765
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,520
was the wilson davis notes we did an

766
00:27:40,470 --> 00:27:38,000
episode on here not long ago with jay uh

767
00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:40,480
where we uh went over those notes and

768
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:41,520
everything

769
00:27:46,389 --> 00:27:44,559
um now you were on the ground floor when

770
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:46,399
those first came out correct said tell

771
00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:47,760
me about uh

772
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,760
you know how the community took to

773
00:27:53,029 --> 00:27:51,360
because i wasn't around then i just came

774
00:27:55,669 --> 00:27:53,039
here after my

775
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:55,679
uh experience um

776
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,840
so i wasn't there then what was that

777
00:28:01,430 --> 00:27:59,840
like in the community when that hit and

778
00:28:02,710 --> 00:28:01,440
what did you know about it at the time

779
00:28:04,549 --> 00:28:02,720
let me give you some history about it

780
00:28:06,389 --> 00:28:04,559
and first off i can't take credit for

781
00:28:08,710 --> 00:28:06,399
any of that stuff i didn't even know

782
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:08,720
what those were until

783
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:11,520
uh giuliano marikovich sent them to our

784
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:12,720
friend group

785
00:28:16,470 --> 00:28:14,240
and joe

786
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:16,480
knew about it ufo joe knew about it

787
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:18,000
i think chris welford knew about it

788
00:28:23,110 --> 00:28:20,640
already giuliano knew about it i didn't

789
00:28:24,549 --> 00:28:23,120
know about it until he until giuliano

790
00:28:26,310 --> 00:28:24,559
had found the leak

791
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,320
and uh shared it with us and then it was

792
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,399
a huge learning curve for me

793
00:28:31,990 --> 00:28:30,799
to get brought up on it and you know so

794
00:28:34,310 --> 00:28:32,000
i can't take credit for anything that

795
00:28:35,990 --> 00:28:34,320
was going on other than just being like

796
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,000
having inside knowledge at that time

797
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:38,720
thanks to giuliano um so basically the

798
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,200
story goes you know this thing happened

799
00:28:44,870 --> 00:28:42,480
uh

800
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:44,880
dolan got shown some pages

801
00:28:49,350 --> 00:28:47,600
um way back in the early 2000s he's

802
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:49,360
hinted at who showed him the pages i

803
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,360
think it was hail put off

804
00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:53,760
which a lot of people uh

805
00:28:57,669 --> 00:28:56,000
may be surprised to hear but

806
00:28:59,029 --> 00:28:57,679
i think it was helpful i could say that

807
00:29:01,269 --> 00:28:59,039
i've never been told it was so i don't

808
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:01,279
need to keep quiet about it but it it

809
00:29:05,190 --> 00:29:02,799
seems like it was hal

810
00:29:08,470 --> 00:29:05,200
and um he was showing like four pages of

811
00:29:09,990 --> 00:29:08,480
it and he was just like blown away by it

812
00:29:13,990 --> 00:29:10,000
it's really really obvious that the

813
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:14,000
meeting happened like 100 it happened

814
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,360
davis took those notes he met wilson

815
00:29:21,269 --> 00:29:19,440
i've always said that

816
00:29:24,149 --> 00:29:21,279
we don't know what wilson was told by

817
00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:24,159
the sap managers was accurate

818
00:29:28,070 --> 00:29:25,760
so

819
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:28,080
that's a problem uh it's interesting

820
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:29,600
what they told him

821
00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:31,760
um you know there's some things in there

822
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:32,720
that

823
00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:33,520
uh

824
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:34,960
are problematic like they said there's

825
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:36,720
no abductions so how does that work like

826
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:38,320
how how would they even know there's no

827
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,440
abductions

828
00:29:42,389 --> 00:29:41,279
right when you say like throughout the

829
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:42,399
whole world there's never been an

830
00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:44,480
abduction how could you say that right

831
00:29:47,750 --> 00:29:46,080
makes no sense to me

832
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,760
unless unless you know that you're doing

833
00:29:51,190 --> 00:29:49,679
them yourself but even if you're doing

834
00:29:52,789 --> 00:29:51,200
them yourself

835
00:29:54,710 --> 00:29:52,799
how could you like be so sure that

836
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:54,720
there's none but yeah right but maybe

837
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:56,159
they're just saying that they've

838
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:58,240
committed a bunch of them which i get

839
00:30:01,510 --> 00:29:59,679
but this just seems like such a blanket

840
00:30:03,029 --> 00:30:01,520
statement it wouldn't make sense but

841
00:30:05,350 --> 00:30:03,039
also you know there could be some things

842
00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:05,360
lost in translation from the sap guy to

843
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,840
wilson to davis they're all humans even

844
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,440
though the notes happened and the

845
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:11,279
meeting happened they're kind of playing

846
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:12,720
the telephone game you know what i mean

847
00:30:14,789 --> 00:30:13,440
so

848
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:14,799
maybe they said

849
00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,799
a lot of adoptions don't happen but then

850
00:30:19,269 --> 00:30:18,480
davis wrote it down as no abductions

851
00:30:22,310 --> 00:30:19,279
happen

852
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:22,320
uh but i digress but um yeah i didn't

853
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:24,399
think that it was going to necessarily

854
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:25,600
uh

855
00:30:29,830 --> 00:30:27,440
bring about disclosure when i saw them

856
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:29,840
because grant cameron had been teasing

857
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,840
these notes on the radio talking about

858
00:30:35,029 --> 00:30:33,120
them without them being released for

859
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,039
like a year prior and people were

860
00:30:38,950 --> 00:30:37,520
filming at the time

861
00:30:40,549 --> 00:30:38,960
typical grant

862
00:30:42,070 --> 00:30:40,559
grant was saying it was like game over

863
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,080
once they get leaked

864
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,880
um and it may still turn out to be game

865
00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:46,240
over especially with what happened in

866
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:48,000
the hearing so i could be wrong and

867
00:30:51,510 --> 00:30:49,919
maybe it's gonna be game over eventually

868
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:51,520
to me the most important thing about

869
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:53,279
them is

870
00:30:57,430 --> 00:30:55,279
the bottom line and the bottom line is

871
00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:57,440
that there's uh

872
00:31:01,590 --> 00:30:59,519
secret programs in

873
00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:01,600
a private industry

874
00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,480
um

875
00:31:06,710 --> 00:31:04,399
we don't have to only have the notes to

876
00:31:09,029 --> 00:31:06,720
know that we know that from basically

877
00:31:10,870 --> 00:31:09,039
everyone who's talking on the subject

878
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,880
you know that's smart about this or has

879
00:31:14,789 --> 00:31:12,880
inside knowledge whether it's lou

880
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:14,799
or people that are unlike like steven

881
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:18,080
greer or everyone across the board diana

882
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:20,320
pasoka i don't want to speak for her but

883
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:21,919
i'm pretty sure that you know that

884
00:31:26,389 --> 00:31:24,080
message is in her book everyone across

885
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:26,399
the board says their secret programs

886
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,919
and not only are they in the government

887
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,760
but they're quasi funded by the

888
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:31,360
government in private industry like

889
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,000
lockheed you could go back to uh close

890
00:31:38,149 --> 00:31:36,159
encounters of the third kind it's crazy

891
00:31:40,789 --> 00:31:38,159
they show the lockheed crates

892
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:40,799
i mean yeah in the public

893
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:43,519
mythology in the public mind state

894
00:31:46,310 --> 00:31:45,120
for decades and decades and decades and

895
00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:46,320
it turns out to be true that one so

896
00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:47,840
that's what really trips me out so

897
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:49,600
that's the bottom line of this thing

898
00:31:54,149 --> 00:31:52,320
that there's secret programs

899
00:31:56,070 --> 00:31:54,159
even government officials

900
00:31:58,389 --> 00:31:56,080
high up government officials like wilson

901
00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:58,399
or other people or maybe even presidents

902
00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:00,559
don't have access to them

903
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:02,000
so that's a huge problem and to me

904
00:32:04,310 --> 00:32:03,440
that's the bottom line of this whole

905
00:32:06,070 --> 00:32:04,320
thing

906
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:06,080
and really the almost one of the biggest

907
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:08,640
bottom lines of disclosure right

908
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,679
yeah

909
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:11,440
but going back to what happened with uh

910
00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:13,519
the muslim documents so one day we're

911
00:32:17,669 --> 00:32:15,440
just in our chat group thing and and

912
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:17,679
juliana says i found it and it leaked to

913
00:32:19,990 --> 00:32:18,559
reddit

914
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,000
and it's on there and no one even

915
00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:21,760
noticed you know there's a couple people

916
00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:23,360
on there saying that it's fake they

917
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:24,880
don't know what it is

918
00:32:27,190 --> 00:32:25,519
and

919
00:32:29,590 --> 00:32:27,200
it just uploaded to reddit by someone

920
00:32:30,870 --> 00:32:29,600
anonymously so then when we had it they

921
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:30,880
were really freaking out about it and i

922
00:32:34,389 --> 00:32:32,240
was like i've never seen these guys

923
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,399
freak out like this before and get so

924
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:36,399
excited and go nuts over this so it was

925
00:32:41,590 --> 00:32:39,600
like a big behind the scenes right away

926
00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:41,600
i was hitting up my sources my friends

927
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:42,720
and i was like i don't know what to do

928
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:43,760
with this

929
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:45,200
should i leak this so i put it out on my

930
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,919
blog because if i do

931
00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:49,120
um

932
00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:50,880
i'll probably be like super famous but

933
00:32:54,950 --> 00:32:52,799
at the same time i'm gonna be throwing

934
00:32:56,070 --> 00:32:54,960
dr davis under the bus right because we

935
00:32:58,149 --> 00:32:56,080
thought it was going to get him in a lot

936
00:32:59,269 --> 00:32:58,159
of trouble and actually it probably did

937
00:33:00,870 --> 00:32:59,279
even though

938
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,880
some people say nothing happened to him

939
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,399
i saw

940
00:33:06,149 --> 00:33:04,000
john greenwald recently saying that on

941
00:33:07,590 --> 00:33:06,159
twitter you know that well why is he

942
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:07,600
still walking around why isn't he in

943
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:10,159
jail if he's talking about ufo stuff and

944
00:33:12,950 --> 00:33:11,840
i made the point to him on twitter that

945
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:12,960
we don't know that we don't know what's

946
00:33:16,149 --> 00:33:14,480
happened behind the scenes

947
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:16,159
me personally i think probably some

948
00:33:18,950 --> 00:33:17,600
things have happened to him and there's

949
00:33:19,830 --> 00:33:18,960
been some blow back

950
00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:19,840
you know

951
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,200
but um

952
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,120
so we decided

953
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:24,880
uh

954
00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:26,720
not leak it ourselves which was like a

955
00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:28,799
huge decision it was like

956
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,880
having this huge giant thing now the

957
00:33:35,269 --> 00:33:32,880
reason we also decided it is because it

958
00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:35,279
was on reddit so we figured someone else

959
00:33:38,389 --> 00:33:36,480
was going to

960
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,399
if it was only up to us to leak it or no

961
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,480
one else was ever going to see it

962
00:33:43,269 --> 00:33:41,760
we i feel like we would i would have

963
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:43,279
leaked it myself

964
00:33:46,789 --> 00:33:45,600
but the fact was it was on reddit so i

965
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:46,799
felt like it was just a matter of time

966
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:49,120
so i was gonna let someone else do it

967
00:33:52,389 --> 00:33:50,960
at that point if i had just had it i

968
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,399
would have put it on myself if it wasn't

969
00:33:55,509 --> 00:33:54,399
on reddit but i was just like okay it's

970
00:33:57,350 --> 00:33:55,519
on there someone else is going to be the

971
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:57,360
bad guy they can do it i don't need to

972
00:34:00,149 --> 00:33:58,880
be famous over this

973
00:34:01,590 --> 00:34:00,159
they don't need to be famous joe

974
00:34:02,950 --> 00:34:01,600
giuliano chris they decided we all

975
00:34:05,269 --> 00:34:02,960
decided together we don't need to do

976
00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:05,279
this we don't want to burn davis

977
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:08,079
um we don't want these guys to hate us

978
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:09,520
um even though if we put it up in

979
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:11,760
retrospect they probably wouldn't have

980
00:34:14,550 --> 00:34:13,520
because it was already on reddit i was

981
00:34:16,869 --> 00:34:14,560
talking to some people and they were

982
00:34:18,310 --> 00:34:16,879
like dude it's on reddit just put it out

983
00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:18,320
and i kind of was just like no i don't

984
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:19,520
want to

985
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:20,560
um

986
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,399
and then it took way longer than we

987
00:34:25,589 --> 00:34:24,159
thought it did we felt like someone

988
00:34:27,430 --> 00:34:25,599
every day we would wake up and be like

989
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:27,440
okay this is the day

990
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:29,119
somebody's gonna notice it on reddit and

991
00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:30,800
they're gonna share it

992
00:34:35,829 --> 00:34:33,839
and uh i had sent it to a couple people

993
00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:35,839
i sent it to uh and i'm saying a bunch

994
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:37,040
of stuff that was like at the time of

995
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,320
secret i don't think it matters anymore

996
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,919
so i'm just gonna say it now and this is

997
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,040
probably the first time i'm saying some

998
00:34:44,389 --> 00:34:43,040
of this stuff but i had sent it to james

999
00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,399
ian doley

1000
00:34:49,750 --> 00:34:46,639
and uh he was like on the phone with

1001
00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:49,760
grant and he was like danny has it danny

1002
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,000
has the listing documents and graham was

1003
00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:54,000
like how many pages is it and james was

1004
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:54,960
like

1005
00:34:58,230 --> 00:34:56,320
whatever the number of pages and grant

1006
00:34:59,589 --> 00:34:58,240
was like yeah that sounds like it's it

1007
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,599
grant probably already knew was leaked

1008
00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:01,520
on reddit.com i don't know

1009
00:35:05,030 --> 00:35:02,960
and then i was like

1010
00:35:07,109 --> 00:35:05,040
james sent it to richard dolan so dolan

1011
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,119
had never seen the whole thing and dolan

1012
00:35:10,950 --> 00:35:09,359
was waiting like decades to see it james

1013
00:35:13,670 --> 00:35:10,960
sent it to dolan

1014
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:13,680
so then dolan was freaking out

1015
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,359
dolan decided he wasn't going to put it

1016
00:35:18,550 --> 00:35:16,960
out either until someone else was

1017
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:18,560
talking about it first

1018
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:19,760
so everyone was kind of like writing

1019
00:35:22,150 --> 00:35:21,440
their articles behind the scenes waiting

1020
00:35:23,510 --> 00:35:22,160
for

1021
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:23,520
public knowledge

1022
00:35:27,030 --> 00:35:25,119
before they because they didn't want to

1023
00:35:28,790 --> 00:35:27,040
be the first bad guy person

1024
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:28,800
so like i think richard dolan was like

1025
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,480
you know doing all this content about it

1026
00:35:35,190 --> 00:35:32,400
just waiting to drop it

1027
00:35:38,230 --> 00:35:36,950
then what happened was it took a lot of

1028
00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:38,240
time like i said we were waking up every

1029
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:39,839
day waiting for it to be like no one was

1030
00:35:44,790 --> 00:35:42,320
noticing it it took a lot of time

1031
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:44,800
grant kept on doing interviews about it

1032
00:35:49,270 --> 00:35:47,520
people were like on my twitter um

1033
00:35:51,430 --> 00:35:49,280
because grant was naming the young guns

1034
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,440
quote unquote as having the document

1035
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,200
so people were like

1036
00:35:56,950 --> 00:35:55,680
pressing us about it um i would tweet

1037
00:35:58,470 --> 00:35:56,960
like a song

1038
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:58,480
you know like i was just being stupid

1039
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,880
tweeting like music and they'd be like

1040
00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:02,800
there's a secret message in this music

1041
00:36:06,550 --> 00:36:04,400
it's about the document and we need to

1042
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:06,560
like listen to the song for the message

1043
00:36:10,310 --> 00:36:08,480
what the hell are you guys talking about

1044
00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:10,320
and um

1045
00:36:14,069 --> 00:36:11,920
then there was the other doc another

1046
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:14,079
document from the um the same mitchell

1047
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:15,119
estate

1048
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,920
that got leaked onto reddit um

1049
00:36:23,109 --> 00:36:20,240
and that one blew up immediately people

1050
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,119
noticed it it was on your twitter and

1051
00:36:26,390 --> 00:36:24,720
all you had to do was click on the name

1052
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:26,400
of who shared it on reddit

1053
00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:27,440
and then it would take you to their

1054
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:28,720
previous post and then show you the

1055
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:31,040
wilson documents and still no one had

1056
00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:32,800
clicked on the name of the share of the

1057
00:36:39,589 --> 00:36:36,480
person wow the reddit user and um so it

1058
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,599
still hadn't leaked and we were

1059
00:36:44,150 --> 00:36:42,000
we were like busy behind the scenes

1060
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,160
then finally i think someone ended up

1061
00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,720
clicking on the reddit user's name like

1062
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:48,079
weeks later

1063
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,200
um

1064
00:36:53,190 --> 00:36:52,079
and uh then they shared it on

1065
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:53,200
twitter

1066
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:55,200
people started talking about it

1067
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:56,960
then dolan shared his content and then

1068
00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:59,040
boom it was out and it was done

1069
00:37:02,150 --> 00:37:00,320
so that's kind of the story of what

1070
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:02,160
happened behind the scenes wow like i

1071
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:03,599
said i can't take credit for anything

1072
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,800
other than just

1073
00:37:08,550 --> 00:37:06,640
knowing about it and kind of sharing it

1074
00:37:10,310 --> 00:37:08,560
around and being part of the

1075
00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:10,320
think tank all because of giuliana

1076
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,160
noticing it and us deciding not to share

1077
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:15,440
it um but it also gave people like joe

1078
00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:18,480
giuliano chris even myself who i'm not

1079
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:19,760
you know i wasn't like some big

1080
00:37:23,990 --> 00:37:21,280
researcher on it

1081
00:37:25,670 --> 00:37:24,000
it gave us a lot of extra time before

1082
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:25,680
the public did to kind of look into this

1083
00:37:29,670 --> 00:37:27,440
stuff and research it and and kind of

1084
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:29,680
have our learning curve like

1085
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:32,400
better than anyone else um

1086
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:34,240
but you know giuliano and joe those guys

1087
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,200
are like

1088
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,960
experts on like every little detail in

1089
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:38,640
it and even to this day they'll be

1090
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,320
talking about blah blah this happened

1091
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:42,880
here and we can prove this here

1092
00:37:46,950 --> 00:37:44,960
and i'm like yeah like

1093
00:37:48,790 --> 00:37:46,960
it's impressive knowledge about this

1094
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:48,800
document well i shouldn't call it a

1095
00:37:53,670 --> 00:37:51,680
document's notes um a level of knowledge

1096
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:53,680
about the notes like these little things

1097
00:37:55,829 --> 00:37:54,720
where they're trying to prove this

1098
00:37:57,670 --> 00:37:55,839
little thing

1099
00:37:59,190 --> 00:37:57,680
here and there and um

1100
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,200
their level of knowledge on it is just

1101
00:38:02,069 --> 00:38:01,200
like even way more than mine

1102
00:38:05,270 --> 00:38:02,079
um

1103
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:05,280
mine is more of kind of just like a

1104
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:07,599
surface level understanding how

1105
00:38:10,710 --> 00:38:09,440
important it is but also at the same

1106
00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:10,720
time when i saw it you know grant was

1107
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:12,079
saying like i said graham was saying it

1108
00:38:16,069 --> 00:38:13,760
was going to cause disclosure i didn't

1109
00:38:19,349 --> 00:38:16,079
think it necessarily would and it hasn't

1110
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:19,359
um but it still might and now

1111
00:38:23,190 --> 00:38:21,520
something i printed out like

1112
00:38:25,829 --> 00:38:23,200
probably like in my underwear like i

1113
00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:25,839
printed out like a

1114
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:27,359
paper thing just so i could like staple

1115
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,480
it and have it

1116
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,920
and now that it's in the congressional

1117
00:38:35,430 --> 00:38:32,480
record like it's insane it just it's

1118
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:35,440
just really crazy that was a huge moment

1119
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:38,000
just for to see gallagher say put it on

1120
00:38:42,150 --> 00:38:39,520
the record like that like that was just

1121
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:42,160
insane to me man that was so surreal and

1122
00:38:47,030 --> 00:38:44,160
amazing and uh

1123
00:38:49,910 --> 00:38:47,040
it was like my top three ufo moments i

1124
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:49,920
think of the last five six years and

1125
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,640
it was so thrilled but maybe it is going

1126
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:54,560
to lead to or at least

1127
00:38:57,430 --> 00:38:56,320
promote and

1128
00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:57,440
uh

1129
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,960
get these people interested more

1130
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:00,800
interested in the government about these

1131
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:03,359
secret programs which is what it is

1132
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:05,520
and it's probably all based on money and

1133
00:39:09,270 --> 00:39:06,480
power

1134
00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:09,280
you know um lew's intimated this along

1135
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:11,440
with basically everyone else

1136
00:39:15,990 --> 00:39:13,680
that a lot of this tech and all this

1137
00:39:17,829 --> 00:39:16,000
other stuff it wasn't given out evenly

1138
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,839
to these five companies

1139
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:19,760
so they don't want

1140
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:21,440
a light show on that everyone's gonna

1141
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,640
sue each other

1142
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:24,240
you know tom delong has said this

1143
00:39:28,470 --> 00:39:26,480
everyone said this you know it poses a

1144
00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:28,480
lot of legal problems because these

1145
00:39:32,069 --> 00:39:29,920
companies it wasn't a level playing

1146
00:39:33,510 --> 00:39:32,079
field for them right so

1147
00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:33,520
and they want the power they want the

1148
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:34,640
money

1149
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:37,040
you know i think a ton of companies

1150
00:39:41,349 --> 00:39:39,440
it seems really conspiratorial

1151
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:41,359
and i've been talking a lot about core

1152
00:39:44,310 --> 00:39:42,560
story

1153
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:44,320
core myth

1154
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:45,760
core secret

1155
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:48,079
a lot of it is like correct that the

1156
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:49,680
public has

1157
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:52,640
known or like even hollywood and um

1158
00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:54,640
the whole like secret programs in

1159
00:39:59,670 --> 00:39:56,400
private industry and secret programs in

1160
00:40:01,829 --> 00:39:59,680
the government and leaks of technology

1161
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,839
and all this thing like it's accurate

1162
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:03,359
it's crazy to me

1163
00:40:06,630 --> 00:40:05,040
how hollywood

1164
00:40:08,309 --> 00:40:06,640
and the public had like a pretty

1165
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:08,319
accurate idea

1166
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,319
of the pop culture idea of what's going

1167
00:40:14,710 --> 00:40:12,720
on with ufos some of it is very very off

1168
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,720
but some of it is like really accurate

1169
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:16,240
and that's one of the things that's like

1170
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,440
really accurate and it's funny some of

1171
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:19,359
the skeptics will be like

1172
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:21,440
well the secret's too big to never have

1173
00:40:24,710 --> 00:40:23,599
gotten out how did it never get out well

1174
00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,720
it kind of did when you look at like

1175
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:26,960
this myth all these

1176
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,920
it's that you didn't believe it

1177
00:40:33,349 --> 00:40:31,359
man like it's actually been accurate

1178
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:33,359
like even some of this roswell stuff and

1179
00:40:37,349 --> 00:40:34,720
all this other stuff like

1180
00:40:38,950 --> 00:40:37,359
it seems kind of accurate now um

1181
00:40:41,190 --> 00:40:38,960
with lou co-signing some of this stuff

1182
00:40:42,950 --> 00:40:41,200
like luke cosigning roswell and these

1183
00:40:45,349 --> 00:40:42,960
are like serious guys that i don't think

1184
00:40:47,030 --> 00:40:45,359
they'll just throw that out there

1185
00:40:49,349 --> 00:40:47,040
that kind of blew me away to be honest

1186
00:40:50,309 --> 00:40:49,359
when he was asked about roswell and he's

1187
00:40:51,430 --> 00:40:50,319
you know

1188
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,440
didn't

1189
00:40:55,430 --> 00:40:53,599
you know call it garbage and and pretty

1190
00:40:57,349 --> 00:40:55,440
much just said keep looking at it you

1191
00:40:59,349 --> 00:40:57,359
know that was that was pretty

1192
00:41:01,030 --> 00:40:59,359
because to be honest when i started

1193
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:01,040
getting into the field and looking at

1194
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:03,920
documents and stuff and looking at all

1195
00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:06,400
finding all these documents looking at

1196
00:41:12,950 --> 00:41:09,520
every freaking new mexico case that they

1197
00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:12,960
had which was like 750 pages you know

1198
00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:14,880
during those years reading every single

1199
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:16,640
one not seeing a damn thing about

1200
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:18,960
roswell but i'm like but they document

1201
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,960
all these cases so there would have to

1202
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,240
be

1203
00:41:27,589 --> 00:41:24,880
uh something or a mention of it or

1204
00:41:29,829 --> 00:41:27,599
something about roswell in all these

1205
00:41:33,990 --> 00:41:29,839
hundreds of cases over the course of two

1206
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:34,000
years you know 47 to 49 or 50. nothing

1207
00:41:39,589 --> 00:41:37,760
zilch and i was like man that's not real

1208
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:39,599
i don't think that's even real how could

1209
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:41,760
it be how could they not mention it at

1210
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:42,480
all

1211
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:45,440
and but the the more like you're

1212
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,760
uh into this topic the more research you

1213
00:41:50,950 --> 00:41:48,880
do

1214
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:50,960
it's it's quite

1215
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:54,400
uh more than possible that

1216
00:42:00,150 --> 00:41:57,119
you know as soon as that happened uh it

1217
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,160
went straight to hell underground you

1218
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:03,119
know and putting a freaking vault

1219
00:42:06,790 --> 00:42:05,200
and people told that freaking shut up

1220
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,800
and nobody really probably knew about it

1221
00:42:10,550 --> 00:42:08,319
that were even working on the blue book

1222
00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:10,560
files or whatever they were probably a

1223
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,079
lot of them were probably in the dark i

1224
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:13,920
would have to imagine for a secret to

1225
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:16,400
stay that secret for so long you know

1226
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,839
until

1227
00:42:22,950 --> 00:42:20,079
uh what was it colonel corso came out

1228
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,960
started talking about it so

1229
00:42:26,950 --> 00:42:24,720
yeah it's intense and then luke comes

1230
00:42:30,790 --> 00:42:26,960
out and says that and the implications

1231
00:42:32,950 --> 00:42:30,800
of it are so intense i mean um

1232
00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:32,960
you know it's just such a paradigm shift

1233
00:42:36,390 --> 00:42:34,880
to think about

1234
00:42:39,670 --> 00:42:36,400
you know because that would

1235
00:42:43,030 --> 00:42:39,680
that almost basically means that

1236
00:42:44,790 --> 00:42:43,040
you know little green men are real

1237
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,800
you know and and we hear a lot like it's

1238
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:46,480
not about little green men or flying

1239
00:42:51,109 --> 00:42:49,599
saucers or ufos sometimes and i wonder

1240
00:42:53,589 --> 00:42:51,119
if you ever think this is that just

1241
00:42:55,829 --> 00:42:53,599
really a way to soften people up to open

1242
00:42:58,710 --> 00:42:55,839
up to the idea of ufos and maybe there

1243
00:43:01,190 --> 00:42:58,720
really are little green men

1244
00:43:03,430 --> 00:43:01,200
you know because i've sure read a lot of

1245
00:43:06,630 --> 00:43:03,440
stories like uh siracco

1246
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:06,640
or socorro uh with lonnie

1247
00:43:11,270 --> 00:43:09,040
zamora and a lot of others

1248
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:11,280
that sound very convincing

1249
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,880
and there are little green

1250
00:43:19,670 --> 00:43:17,359
gray men you know

1251
00:43:21,109 --> 00:43:19,680
yeah let me uh touch on a couple things

1252
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:21,119
here so

1253
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,040
one um

1254
00:43:27,910 --> 00:43:25,520
back to the wilson documents real quick

1255
00:43:29,430 --> 00:43:27,920
i i know a lot of people i might pat on

1256
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:29,440
myself on the back a lot of us do that

1257
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:31,359
i've been around here a long time

1258
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:33,200
or and i haven't been around a super

1259
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:35,359
long time i've been here since 2017 but

1260
00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,720
i've gotten to know some people that i

1261
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:37,680
trust

1262
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:40,400
um i can count on one hand

1263
00:43:43,910 --> 00:43:42,400
the people that don't think the

1264
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,920
wilson notes actually happened and i'm

1265
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,520
not saying all the information isn't in

1266
00:43:49,030 --> 00:43:47,680
them is correct but i'm saying that the

1267
00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:49,040
the meeting didn't happen and it's all

1268
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:50,960
crap so that's one hand

1269
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,640
the other side is like i don't know like

1270
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:56,480
50 people 100 people that's telling me

1271
00:43:59,670 --> 00:43:57,440
it's real

1272
00:44:01,349 --> 00:43:59,680
you can and not only

1273
00:44:03,829 --> 00:44:01,359
was lou kind of like

1274
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,839
wink wink cosigning roswell you can see

1275
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,280
his recent interviews about the wilson

1276
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,680
davis document notes he's uh he's

1277
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,359
excited about him

1278
00:44:12,309 --> 00:44:10,960
so what does that tell you about lou's

1279
00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,319
opinion on it

1280
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,640
um and all these other guys opinions and

1281
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:16,720
me myself joe

1282
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:20,400
you know uh uh george knapp um dolan

1283
00:44:23,589 --> 00:44:22,000
we're not just like pulling the stuff

1284
00:44:25,030 --> 00:44:23,599
out of the air when we say we believe

1285
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:25,040
the notes happened

1286
00:44:30,550 --> 00:44:27,760
like it's like a mountain

1287
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:30,560
maybe not of evidence but of opinions

1288
00:44:34,230 --> 00:44:32,560
and i get that people want the evidence

1289
00:44:35,349 --> 00:44:34,240
but it's like really really obvious that

1290
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:35,359
they happened

1291
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:36,400
and like

1292
00:44:41,190 --> 00:44:38,800
nids and those guys were aware of it

1293
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:41,200
they all had copies of it at the time

1294
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:43,440
you know uh

1295
00:44:46,710 --> 00:44:45,200
it's just a mountain of evidence same

1296
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:46,720
thing going back to roswell now so in

1297
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:51,680
2017 we had the tic tac right 2017 2018

1298
00:44:54,790 --> 00:44:53,359
and

1299
00:44:57,750 --> 00:44:54,800
you know we were thinking of activists

1300
00:44:58,630 --> 00:44:57,760
like my guy adam you know adam and me

1301
00:44:59,910 --> 00:44:58,640
have been

1302
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:59,920
you know

1303
00:45:03,030 --> 00:45:01,520
trying to think about this a long time

1304
00:45:05,430 --> 00:45:03,040
and what's the best way to go about it

1305
00:45:07,670 --> 00:45:05,440
and we've changed our minds on things uh

1306
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:07,680
we've we've uh even argued with each

1307
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:09,040
other even though he's a sweetheart and

1308
00:45:12,309 --> 00:45:10,079
i love him

1309
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,319
and uh but we really like just tried to

1310
00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,079
think of the best way

1311
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:16,480
to help the subject right

1312
00:45:19,670 --> 00:45:17,520
so in

1313
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:19,680
2018 our way of thinking was like

1314
00:45:22,790 --> 00:45:21,359
screw was roswell we're not going to

1315
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:22,800
talk about roswell we have the tic tac

1316
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,440
now we don't know if roswell happened

1317
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:27,040
you know we're sick of

1318
00:45:29,910 --> 00:45:28,400
the public

1319
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:29,920
thinking about roswell as the number one

1320
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,599
case we want them to go

1321
00:45:36,230 --> 00:45:33,680
ace as a tic-tac and they should even to

1322
00:45:37,750 --> 00:45:36,240
this day they should um and so we kind

1323
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:37,760
of put roswell on the back burner we

1324
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,520
were debating whether it was real the

1325
00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:41,359
annie jacobson book came out and that

1326
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:42,880
kind of muddied the waters about a lot

1327
00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:45,200
of stuff

1328
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,800
and then uh

1329
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:48,880
so i was kind of like off roswell like

1330
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:50,880
it wasn't a big deal to me anymore what

1331
00:45:55,030 --> 00:45:53,599
got me back on the roswell mythology is

1332
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:55,040
basically lou

1333
00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,480
um

1334
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:58,319
but i just wanted to say that uh yeah so

1335
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,160
we were focusing on the tic-tac and this

1336
00:46:03,349 --> 00:46:02,160
other stuff and we were off roswell but

1337
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:03,359
now i think a lot of people have came

1338
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:05,760
back on it thanks to lou

1339
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:08,800
yeah um the the little bit of research i

1340
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:11,119
did on what corso was talking about as

1341
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:14,240
far as the foreign technology division

1342
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:16,319
taking some of that tech

1343
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:18,640
putting it in the public sector

1344
00:46:21,270 --> 00:46:19,839
um

1345
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:21,280
you know

1346
00:46:26,710 --> 00:46:23,920
yeah i mean i found

1347
00:46:28,630 --> 00:46:26,720
the projects that that did that work i

1348
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:28,640
mean i know what they're called that

1349
00:46:31,910 --> 00:46:30,079
actually happened

1350
00:46:34,630 --> 00:46:31,920
the documents are there what they don't

1351
00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:34,640
say is we took alien tech and gave it to

1352
00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:36,640
you know lockheed martin no but they're

1353
00:46:40,230 --> 00:46:38,240
talking about

1354
00:46:42,470 --> 00:46:40,240
technology that they're putting into the

1355
00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:42,480
commercial sector you know it's project

1356
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:43,920
project gold eagle and project

1357
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:45,119
whitestock and those where are they

1358
00:46:48,790 --> 00:46:46,880
saying you got it from like crashed

1359
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:48,800
satellites or what that's what they

1360
00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,119
don't say but what it you know but for a

1361
00:46:55,589 --> 00:46:53,359
technology division went you know uh

1362
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:55,599
what they did they had moon dust right

1363
00:47:00,950 --> 00:46:58,240
moondust was out of fort belfour

1364
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:00,960
who would uh you know collect

1365
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:03,839
crash soviet satellites or or other

1366
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:06,079
crashed things foreign technology

1367
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:07,680
division would take a look at it and do

1368
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,640
their thing and so i'm assuming you know

1369
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:12,480
whatever they got from that sort of

1370
00:47:15,670 --> 00:47:13,920
thing is what they would put out the

1371
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,680
public sector

1372
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:17,200
so and

1373
00:47:21,990 --> 00:47:18,240
you know

1374
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:22,000
enough of it i'm sure they

1375
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:25,200
um don't actually well they obviously

1376
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:27,119
don't put the documents because

1377
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,200
you know i don't know but but i've read

1378
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:30,880
them and there's not too many of them

1379
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:31,680
but

1380
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:33,839
you know you put enough research in in

1381
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,640
time into this stuff and if you can

1382
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:38,400
manage to see through the crap you can

1383
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:40,240
see that there's a whole lot of truth to

1384
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:41,760
this stuff

1385
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,549
green men thing it's like

1386
00:47:52,069 --> 00:47:50,000
yeah it does seem like those bodies

1387
00:47:53,829 --> 00:47:52,079
right um it's funny i've kind of stayed

1388
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:53,839
away from the body talk

1389
00:47:57,670 --> 00:47:56,079
me too but i've heard about it though

1390
00:47:59,109 --> 00:47:57,680
from people um

1391
00:48:00,790 --> 00:47:59,119
that definitely seem to think there's

1392
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:00,800
bodies you know does that mean they're

1393
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:02,240
extraterrestrial or they're

1394
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,720
ultra-terrestrial or they're future

1395
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:06,559
humans or their robots or whatever it is

1396
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,640
i guess we don't know still but yeah

1397
00:48:13,109 --> 00:48:10,960
lou's co-signing roswell you would think

1398
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:13,119
he's also close on the body part

1399
00:48:17,990 --> 00:48:14,640
i don't know a whole lot about the the

1400
00:48:19,589 --> 00:48:18,000
body stuff when i talk to uh

1401
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,599
sources and things like that i don't

1402
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:21,440
always bring it up for some reason you

1403
00:48:25,349 --> 00:48:23,119
know to be honest i've forgotten a lot

1404
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:25,359
of stuff over the years like i'll talk

1405
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:27,520
to sources and like really important

1406
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:29,200
people that i like or i think that are

1407
00:48:32,549 --> 00:48:30,880
important and they'll be like yeah you

1408
00:48:33,589 --> 00:48:32,559
can record this conversation if you want

1409
00:48:35,510 --> 00:48:33,599
i'll be like i don't know how to record

1410
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,520
on an iphone

1411
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,359
like years later i like forgot half the

1412
00:48:41,109 --> 00:48:39,119
stuff they told me

1413
00:48:42,390 --> 00:48:41,119
i wish i had recorded it but

1414
00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,400
you know something still stayed there

1415
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:44,400
with me but um yeah so i don't know too

1416
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:47,520
much about the the body stuff but it

1417
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,440
neither really but you would think it

1418
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:51,280
you would think it is now

1419
00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:54,240
are there crashes i would say yes 100

1420
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,520
you know there's crashes and it seems

1421
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:57,119
like bodies go along with it but i don't

1422
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:57,839
know

1423
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:58,720
yeah

1424
00:49:02,069 --> 00:49:00,559
no earlier you mentioned uh that the

1425
00:49:04,790 --> 00:49:02,079
wilson davis think being put into the

1426
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:04,800
congressional record was at one of your

1427
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:07,520
your top three uap moments here

1428
00:49:10,549 --> 00:49:08,400
um

1429
00:49:11,990 --> 00:49:10,559
what were a couple of your others

1430
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:12,000
and these are just the most like

1431
00:49:15,190 --> 00:49:13,599
exciting ones for me i'm not saying that

1432
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:15,200
they're necessarily like

1433
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,319
most important i'm just talking about

1434
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:19,040
kind of yeah mic drops

1435
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,960
so number one i don't know what number

1436
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:22,000
one and number two they're kind of

1437
00:49:26,470 --> 00:49:24,720
interchangeable so one and two are

1438
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,480
uh obviously lou

1439
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:28,800
on tucker carlson when he asked him if

1440
00:49:32,309 --> 00:49:31,040
there was debris i mean he was on

1441
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,319
national tv

1442
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:34,640
and lou said simply put yes that was

1443
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:35,680
insane

1444
00:49:38,549 --> 00:49:37,440
and uh

1445
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,559
at the time

1446
00:49:41,190 --> 00:49:40,079
i was like of course i didn't think it

1447
00:49:43,589 --> 00:49:41,200
was a big deal and i was thinking about

1448
00:49:44,710 --> 00:49:43,599
i was like this dude was on national tv

1449
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:44,720
saying that

1450
00:49:48,470 --> 00:49:46,400
and he said simply put yes does the

1451
00:49:50,790 --> 00:49:48,480
government have ufo debris or however

1452
00:49:53,349 --> 00:49:50,800
tucker stated it and i actually had met

1453
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:53,359
lou for the first time in person

1454
00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,960
right after that

1455
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,960
um and i had asked him about it and i

1456
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:58,640
was like man that was insane he said

1457
00:50:02,470 --> 00:50:00,319
that on tv and he was like yeah i'm

1458
00:50:04,950 --> 00:50:02,480
probably gonna get in trouble for that

1459
00:50:07,109 --> 00:50:04,960
and so that that was one of them

1460
00:50:09,750 --> 00:50:07,119
um that's really huge to me

1461
00:50:13,829 --> 00:50:09,760
the other biggest mic drop i would say

1462
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:13,839
was uh bigelow on 60 minutes before 2017

1463
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:14,880
occurred

1464
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:16,800
i think it was in 2017 before before the

1465
00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:18,000
new york times

1466
00:50:21,510 --> 00:50:18,880
um

1467
00:50:23,910 --> 00:50:21,520
and they were like uh the the

1468
00:50:25,030 --> 00:50:23,920
reporter was said something like what do

1469
00:50:26,150 --> 00:50:25,040
you think that people are going to think

1470
00:50:28,630 --> 00:50:26,160
of you when you're doing all this alien

1471
00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:28,640
stuff and he's like i don't give a damn

1472
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:31,359
it was just like the biggest mic drop

1473
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:33,839
it now we have uh you know put it on the

1474
00:50:38,309 --> 00:50:36,319
record that was just like oh that was

1475
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:38,319
crazy and yes because it was on the

1476
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:40,400
record it doesn't mean it's true

1477
00:50:43,910 --> 00:50:42,000
i know a lot of skeptics are saying that

1478
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:43,920
anything can be put on the record that's

1479
00:50:46,870 --> 00:50:45,119
fine

1480
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,880
that's great but it was still in a

1481
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:49,200
congressional hearing right and bloggers

1482
00:50:53,589 --> 00:50:51,200
had put the wilson notes on the record

1483
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:53,599
that was insane he even brought it up

1484
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:55,920
and that was a huge win for us that was

1485
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:58,400
amazing it was shocking

1486
00:51:01,510 --> 00:51:00,559
and i still it's surreal that it

1487
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:01,520
happened

1488
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:03,200
and uh i mean he turned over to the

1489
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,800
speaker guy and was just said put on the

1490
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:05,920
record so

1491
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:08,319
my top three is like ultimate mic drops

1492
00:51:13,750 --> 00:51:10,800
yeah the thing is too like uh with a lot

1493
00:51:16,549 --> 00:51:13,760
of this stuff in skeptics or

1494
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:16,559
debunkers or whatever um

1495
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:19,200
um you know you would think that

1496
00:51:24,230 --> 00:51:20,960
you would want this to be put in the

1497
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:24,240
record and be officially looked into

1498
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:25,280
so

1499
00:51:28,710 --> 00:51:26,720
you know on your side of things the

1500
00:51:30,630 --> 00:51:28,720
debunker side of things they could say

1501
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:30,640
yeah we looked into it none of this is

1502
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:32,480
true you know don't you want that to

1503
00:51:35,430 --> 00:51:33,359
happen

1504
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:35,440
so it can be put to rest so you know the

1505
00:51:40,230 --> 00:51:38,480
community would move on so to speak in

1506
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:40,240
in your world but they don't even want

1507
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:42,400
that i think it's waste of time no don't

1508
00:51:46,470 --> 00:51:43,599
even do that i can't believe they're

1509
00:51:48,069 --> 00:51:46,480
spending one one ounce of energy on it

1510
00:51:51,190 --> 00:51:48,079
like they can only do one thing at a

1511
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:51,200
time you know which is just ridiculous

1512
00:51:56,150 --> 00:51:53,920
to think about but uh that to me says a

1513
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:56,160
lot that to me almost says they're kind

1514
00:52:00,630 --> 00:51:59,040
of afraid what what is going to be found

1515
00:52:02,950 --> 00:52:00,640
so to speak

1516
00:52:04,870 --> 00:52:02,960
you know right if this is looked into

1517
00:52:07,750 --> 00:52:04,880
and i do have like really big

1518
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,760
reservations about these hearings um

1519
00:52:11,030 --> 00:52:09,599
you know before these hearings happened

1520
00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:11,040
i was like well you can't be in a

1521
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:12,480
hearing and lie

1522
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:13,839
and after seeing the hearing i'm like

1523
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:16,640
wow these dudes are like lying you can't

1524
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:20,000
yeah wilson quadrupled down recently i

1525
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:21,520
think to billy cox

1526
00:52:25,589 --> 00:52:23,280
and was saying that the meeting still

1527
00:52:26,790 --> 00:52:25,599
didn't happen and he would be happy to i

1528
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:26,800
don't remember if he said this i thought

1529
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,880
i think he said he'd be happy to say so

1530
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:30,319
to me that was basically him saying he

1531
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:32,960
was gonna lie so i don't know maybe you

1532
00:52:38,230 --> 00:52:34,720
can just go to hearings and lie

1533
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:38,240
maybe uh nothing happens uh maybe

1534
00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:39,599
the story is different in closed

1535
00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:41,760
hearings so i'm not saying like these

1536
00:52:45,829 --> 00:52:44,160
hearings are like the ultimate

1537
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:45,839
lou was pretty excited about it and

1538
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:47,680
obviously he knows way way more than me

1539
00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:50,480
or anyone most other people um

1540
00:52:53,670 --> 00:52:51,760
saying these guys kind of backed

1541
00:52:56,710 --> 00:52:53,680
themselves into a corner now

1542
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,720
um saying some of this stuff wasn't true

1543
00:53:01,109 --> 00:52:58,720
and and lou was so excited about the

1544
00:53:02,470 --> 00:53:01,119
wilson notes you know being there and

1545
00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:02,480
talked about

1546
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,800
so if he's that excited i'm excited too

1547
00:53:09,349 --> 00:53:06,640
but i am a little bit scared about just

1548
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:09,359
how easy it is to lie i'm also scared

1549
00:53:12,790 --> 00:53:11,119
about

1550
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:12,800
the military industrial compacts

1551
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:15,119
lockheed martin i mean this is

1552
00:53:19,349 --> 00:53:17,680
almost 100 years now of like

1553
00:53:21,510 --> 00:53:19,359
um

1554
00:53:23,190 --> 00:53:21,520
the biggest money on earth

1555
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:23,200
trying to keep this a secret and i asked

1556
00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:25,040
around about that some people you know

1557
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,960
think that probably even in these secret

1558
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:28,319
programs some of these people want this

1559
00:53:31,829 --> 00:53:29,599
info out

1560
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:31,839
but we're still battling like

1561
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:33,520
i'm not saying there's like illuminati

1562
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:35,839
or like world government or whatever you

1563
00:53:41,589 --> 00:53:38,880
know bad guys like that necessarily but

1564
00:53:43,190 --> 00:53:41,599
there is like this huge money structure

1565
00:53:45,270 --> 00:53:43,200
of the military

1566
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:45,280
that's obvious that's not a conspiracy

1567
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,440
it's just how the world works and that's

1568
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,359
what we're kind of going up against but

1569
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:51,359
that's a whole other discussion you know

1570
00:53:54,829 --> 00:53:53,280
how was blue green lighted was it a

1571
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,839
green light was it

1572
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,119
a kind of a bunch of people working

1573
00:54:01,270 --> 00:53:59,119
really hard and it was a perfect storm

1574
00:54:02,630 --> 00:54:01,280
what's going on what are the factions

1575
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:02,640
that want the information out what are

1576
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:04,160
the factions that don't

1577
00:54:06,950 --> 00:54:05,599
you know why is everything occurring

1578
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:06,960
that's a whole other conversation and i

1579
00:54:10,870 --> 00:54:08,559
don't know the answers to it

1580
00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,880
but uh we're battling this huge thing

1581
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:12,319
and i know what's going on behind the

1582
00:54:15,670 --> 00:54:13,359
scenes

1583
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:15,680
um it's a war skeptics don't like that

1584
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:18,079
wording they they they get all cairned

1585
00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:19,440
out and they say oh you're saying war

1586
00:54:22,710 --> 00:54:21,359
you're saying jeremy corbell is saying

1587
00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:22,720
kicking the door oh my gosh they're

1588
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:25,520
clutching their pearls yeah we're still

1589
00:54:29,109 --> 00:54:27,200
a card game

1590
00:54:30,390 --> 00:54:29,119
yeah we're not saying we want january 6

1591
00:54:31,829 --> 00:54:30,400
to happen of course that was horrible

1592
00:54:33,109 --> 00:54:31,839
we're not saying literally oh yeah of

1593
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:33,119
course

1594
00:54:38,549 --> 00:54:36,319
in an information way non-violently

1595
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:38,559
respectfully we need to kick in the door

1596
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:40,240
and we need there's literally a war

1597
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:41,280
going on

1598
00:54:46,230 --> 00:54:43,200
not with violence but with people behind

1599
00:54:49,109 --> 00:54:46,240
the scenes fighting each other um uh you

1600
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,119
know uh with words and with laws and

1601
00:54:52,309 --> 00:54:51,440
with money and there's a lot of people

1602
00:54:53,750 --> 00:54:52,319
that don't want it out and there's

1603
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,760
people that do

1604
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:55,440
yeah

1605
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,119
fictional or you know non-fiction will

1606
00:55:01,030 --> 00:54:59,520
be made just on the behind-the-scenes

1607
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:01,040
political stuff

1608
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:02,720
of these guys that are battling these

1609
00:55:06,390 --> 00:55:05,200
secrets and uh we just saw blue with all

1610
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:06,400
talking about it i mean he could be in

1611
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:07,520
the movie of what the heck he was

1612
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:09,680
talking about um i think that's in

1613
00:55:13,589 --> 00:55:11,440
itself that's a whole story in itself

1614
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,599
that could be 30 books

1615
00:55:18,150 --> 00:55:15,520
yeah time to long we'll probably put it

1616
00:55:22,470 --> 00:55:20,710
but no i mean uh they're

1617
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:22,480
you know it's interesting and what i've

1618
00:55:24,789 --> 00:55:24,079
kept what i'm thinking about doing is

1619
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:24,799
like

1620
00:55:29,750 --> 00:55:29,040
things said that you forgot about you

1621
00:55:30,950 --> 00:55:29,760
know

1622
00:55:33,030 --> 00:55:30,960
like uh

1623
00:55:35,109 --> 00:55:33,040
um

1624
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,119
oh man i forgot what his name is uh this

1625
00:55:38,950 --> 00:55:37,359
yeah james brennan right i said his name

1626
00:55:42,430 --> 00:55:38,960
i think where he was like yeah

1627
00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,440
constitutes another form of life the

1628
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:44,640
cxcia director

1629
00:55:49,510 --> 00:55:47,040
saying what's in this guy

1630
00:55:53,430 --> 00:55:49,520
it's like it constitutes another form of

1631
00:55:54,789 --> 00:55:53,440
life like hello people you know and

1632
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:54,799
you know we've had a lot of great sound

1633
00:55:58,069 --> 00:55:56,640
bites and if nothing else

1634
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,079
what's coming out of this stuff is just

1635
00:56:02,390 --> 00:56:00,240
great sound bites that advocates can use

1636
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:02,400
i mean we had obama um saying that

1637
00:56:05,589 --> 00:56:04,400
there's stuff with the what was it like

1638
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:05,599
i don't remember where to use the

1639
00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,960
trajectories or whatever it was i mean

1640
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:08,319
that was amazing

1641
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,079
i mean there's a lot of a lot of great

1642
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:12,000
sound bites now that we can bring to the

1643
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:13,520
public and we need to do that more so i

1644
00:56:16,309 --> 00:56:14,400
think

1645
00:56:18,549 --> 00:56:16,319
yeah well you know you don't give

1646
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:18,559
yourself enough credit but a lot of us

1647
00:56:23,190 --> 00:56:20,720
are standing on the shoulders of folks

1648
00:56:25,349 --> 00:56:23,200
like yourself and andres for getting

1649
00:56:27,349 --> 00:56:25,359
this going such a long time ago like

1650
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:27,359
after i had my sighting if there wasn't

1651
00:56:32,789 --> 00:56:30,720
a space like this for me to go to um i'd

1652
00:56:34,950 --> 00:56:32,799
be alone in it probably just reading

1653
00:56:37,750 --> 00:56:34,960
books not being able to talk to anybody

1654
00:56:40,470 --> 00:56:37,760
about it you know being pretty uh

1655
00:56:42,950 --> 00:56:40,480
reclusive and not going out to the world

1656
00:56:44,950 --> 00:56:42,960
i have no because this kind of serves as

1657
00:56:47,030 --> 00:56:44,960
a little bit of therapy for someone

1658
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:47,040
who's had an experience as well you know

1659
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,160
like being able to research this and

1660
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:52,400
feel okay about what you what you've

1661
00:56:55,109 --> 00:56:54,000
been through and talking to other people

1662
00:56:58,309 --> 00:56:55,119
about it and

1663
00:56:59,829 --> 00:56:58,319
and it's okay so a lot of that maybe

1664
00:57:00,710 --> 00:56:59,839
maybe it'd be there but not in the way

1665
00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:00,720
it is

1666
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,480
you know now which i which i really

1667
00:57:06,069 --> 00:57:04,400
appreciate so i really appreciate your

1668
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:06,079
guys's work for that

1669
00:57:09,750 --> 00:57:08,480
anything else uh you

1670
00:57:11,430 --> 00:57:09,760
want to

1671
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,440
leave us with or talk about before we

1672
00:57:14,150 --> 00:57:12,960
get out of here

1673
00:57:18,789 --> 00:57:14,160
um

1674
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:18,799
you know like i said me and adam and and

1675
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,839
uh

1676
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:21,920
keith jason christian these other guys

1677
00:57:25,349 --> 00:57:23,920
we were doing this website uav info back

1678
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:25,359
then we were doing it because no one

1679
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:28,319
else was and i mean ufo twitter was like

1680
00:57:31,829 --> 00:57:30,240
10 people and it wasn't called ufo

1681
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:31,839
twitter and this is all really because

1682
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,760
of tom delonge luella lozano george

1683
00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:35,599
knapp jeremy corbell

1684
00:57:40,069 --> 00:57:38,400
chris mellon and to the stars academy

1685
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,079
and we just wanted to know every little

1686
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,920
thing and now there's you know hundreds

1687
00:57:45,589 --> 00:57:43,359
and thousands of people

1688
00:57:48,069 --> 00:57:45,599
uh that want to know every little thing

1689
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:48,079
so it's just that's a cool feeling um

1690
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:49,440
but i don't know what's next man i'm

1691
00:57:52,950 --> 00:57:50,720
just waiting to see what's happening

1692
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:52,960
with the the gila brand stuff i'm in

1693
00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:55,280
wait and see mode on a lot of this now i

1694
00:57:59,349 --> 00:57:58,079
think we're battling a lot of um

1695
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:59,359
things where the government is like

1696
00:58:01,670 --> 00:58:00,480
saying they're doing one thing and then

1697
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:01,680
they're shooting these programs in the

1698
00:58:06,309 --> 00:58:03,440
foot like they don't actually want them

1699
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:06,319
to succeed i think lou and chris and

1700
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:08,559
george and everyone behind the scenes

1701
00:58:11,910 --> 00:58:10,480
are really fighting that

1702
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:11,920
you know there's this story about how

1703
00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:13,200
the uh

1704
00:58:16,390 --> 00:58:15,040
jay stratton was taken out as a task

1705
00:58:17,750 --> 00:58:16,400
force director

1706
00:58:19,349 --> 00:58:17,760
and they put in that other guy that

1707
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:19,359
wasn't didn't have as many clearances

1708
00:58:27,750 --> 00:58:25,589
we got the task force chumps

1709
00:58:29,190 --> 00:58:27,760
uh at the at the hearing a couple weeks

1710
00:58:31,349 --> 00:58:29,200
ago basically

1711
00:58:32,230 --> 00:58:31,359
um that sucked

1712
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:32,240
so

1713
00:58:35,270 --> 00:58:33,440
it's like

1714
00:58:37,670 --> 00:58:35,280
we're getting excited but then i'm also

1715
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:37,680
being very reserved on my excitement

1716
00:58:39,990 --> 00:58:39,040
because i don't know how this stuff is

1717
00:58:41,589 --> 00:58:40,000
turned out

1718
00:58:43,030 --> 00:58:41,599
i still haven't thought what the budget

1719
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:43,040
is for the gilbert stuff like someone

1720
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:44,559
was saying it was going to be like a

1721
00:58:48,630 --> 00:58:46,160
billion dollars or something we were

1722
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:48,640
hearing remember yeah like i don't know

1723
00:58:50,870 --> 00:58:49,760
i don't even know what they're doing

1724
00:58:53,270 --> 00:58:50,880
like now they're putting out that

1725
00:58:55,349 --> 00:58:53,280
they're hiring people and

1726
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:55,359
so it's kind of like

1727
00:58:59,109 --> 00:58:57,760
it's it's it's it's fun yeah and we have

1728
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:59,119
to be careful so i don't know i'm just

1729
00:59:02,069 --> 00:59:00,960
gonna wait and see mode man and um you

1730
00:59:03,349 --> 00:59:02,079
know there's they're saying there's

1731
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:03,359
gonna be more hearings they're saying

1732
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,960
there's going to be private closed door

1733
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:06,400
hearings those could be going on without

1734
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:07,440
our knowledge

1735
00:59:09,910 --> 00:59:08,400
um

1736
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:09,920
i'm just waiting to see but i know that

1737
00:59:12,950 --> 00:59:11,359
lou is like

1738
00:59:14,390 --> 00:59:12,960
really doing a great job chris is really

1739
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:14,400
doing a great job george has done a

1740
00:59:17,750 --> 00:59:16,160
great job we lost reid who you

1741
00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:17,760
interviewed man congratulations again on

1742
00:59:21,190 --> 00:59:19,520
that that's a historic interview

1743
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:21,200
um thanks man there's other guys that

1744
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,280
are doing it and uh and they're winning

1745
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:25,440
and we're just kind of over here

1746
00:59:29,510 --> 00:59:27,200
on social media and stuff doing what we

1747
00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:29,520
can but they're doing like this amazing

1748
00:59:33,270 --> 00:59:31,440
work and they're they seem to really

1749
00:59:35,270 --> 00:59:33,280
really be succeeding so i'm just wait

1750
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:35,280
and wait in c-mode it's exciting i'm

1751
00:59:39,829 --> 00:59:37,520
happy that i get to talk to everyone on

1752
00:59:43,109 --> 00:59:39,839
on twitter and stuff like that it's fun

1753
00:59:45,109 --> 00:59:43,119
um debating is even fun sometimes uh

1754
00:59:46,789 --> 00:59:45,119
sometimes it's not and it's horrible

1755
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:46,799
but uh it's kind of cool we all get to

1756
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:49,359
be friends and we get to kind of uh

1757
00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:51,200
have this interest and take us out of

1758
00:59:55,030 --> 00:59:53,760
our regular lives yeah there's something

1759
00:59:56,549 --> 00:59:55,040
more important than us that we're

1760
00:59:57,510 --> 00:59:56,559
contributing to

1761
00:59:58,950 --> 00:59:57,520
um

1762
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:58,960
so i don't know i'm just waiting to see

1763
01:00:03,670 --> 01:00:01,119
and and uh it's a lot of good things

1764
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:03,680
happening and um but i'm just it's it's

1765
01:00:06,309 --> 01:00:04,640
a fun

1766
01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:06,319
community to be part of george knapp has

1767
01:00:10,069 --> 01:00:08,480
said this for decades and years that

1768
01:00:11,349 --> 01:00:10,079
this stuff is supposed to be fun even

1769
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:11,359
when it's not

1770
01:00:15,349 --> 01:00:13,200
and we have to kind of keep that in mind

1771
01:00:16,230 --> 01:00:15,359
and it's one of my favorite things he

1772
01:00:18,630 --> 01:00:16,240
said

1773
01:00:20,789 --> 01:00:18,640
yeah it takes me out of uh you know my

1774
01:00:22,630 --> 01:00:20,799
day-to-day job that i don't like and i'm

1775
01:00:24,710 --> 01:00:22,640
stressing about life so it's cool man

1776
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:24,720
i'm happy to be here and uh thank you

1777
01:00:28,710 --> 01:00:26,160
for doing your show and stuff and it's

1778
01:00:31,430 --> 01:00:28,720
just more more and onward and let's go

1779
01:00:33,270 --> 01:00:31,440
man yeah it's my pleasure and uh last

1780
01:00:35,670 --> 01:00:33,280
question from the chat

1781
01:00:38,630 --> 01:00:35,680
what is on danny's current playlist my

1782
01:00:40,230 --> 01:00:38,640
current playlist man i got oldies so

1783
01:00:42,710 --> 01:00:40,240
i've been also listening to a lot of

1784
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:42,720
doji cat i hate to say it i didn't go

1785
01:00:46,710 --> 01:00:44,000
out and say i'm going to be a fan of

1786
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:46,720
doja cat but she has all these jams that

1787
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,160
are like really good songs not every

1788
01:00:52,950 --> 01:00:50,400
single song but a lot of her songs are

1789
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:52,960
really really good i hate to say it it's

1790
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:55,440
a pop singer and she's like out wrapping

1791
01:00:59,510 --> 01:00:57,680
a lot of like rappers and stuff now

1792
01:01:01,589 --> 01:00:59,520
she's just really good i listened to

1793
01:01:03,109 --> 01:01:01,599
oldies i was listening to the deal from

1794
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:03,119
the 80s last night at like four in the

1795
01:01:06,150 --> 01:01:04,799
morning

1796
01:01:07,829 --> 01:01:06,160
feeling good and i was putting on like

1797
01:01:09,829 --> 01:01:07,839
old school r b i was listening to the

1798
01:01:11,349 --> 01:01:09,839
deal day and night i've been listening

1799
01:01:13,270 --> 01:01:11,359
to uh

1800
01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:13,280
i'll be sure

1801
01:01:18,230 --> 01:01:16,400
80s like new jack swing um

1802
01:01:20,069 --> 01:01:18,240
i've been just listening to like r b and

1803
01:01:21,910 --> 01:01:20,079
dozia cat and other stuff that pops up

1804
01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:21,920
on youtube and of course i always listen

1805
01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:23,440
to hip hop and funk

1806
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:25,520
and stuff like that i don't know why but

1807
01:01:29,109 --> 01:01:27,359
like there's so many doji cat songs that

1808
01:01:30,789 --> 01:01:29,119
i really really like right now and i'm

1809
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:30,799
just shocked at myself for liking them

1810
01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:33,280
so that was my favorite

1811
01:01:36,789 --> 01:01:35,200
don't question it just go with it if it

1812
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:36,799
makes you feel good that's what music is

1813
01:01:41,270 --> 01:01:38,400
about man

1814
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:41,280
so i appreciate your time man you are a

1815
01:01:43,990 --> 01:01:42,240
champion

1816
01:01:46,309 --> 01:01:44,000
i'm so thankful to know you and that you

1817
01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:46,319
take the time and do this show and you

1818
01:01:49,829 --> 01:01:48,160
know i know that we'll have the

1819
01:01:51,589 --> 01:01:49,839
opportunity in the future to do it again

1820
01:01:53,270 --> 01:01:51,599
and i can't wait for that so

1821
01:01:54,710 --> 01:01:53,280
yeah buddy i'll talk to you soon all

1822
01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:54,720
right man

1823
01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:00,069
all right i hope you guys enjoyed it i

1824
01:02:05,750 --> 01:02:02,000
enjoyed the conversation with mr danny

1825
01:02:07,430 --> 01:02:05,760
silva as always you can visit him and uh

1826
01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:07,440
you know the stuff he does on twitter

1827
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:09,200
silver record on his website

1828
01:02:13,190 --> 01:02:11,839
silverrecord.com um i think he has an

1829
01:02:16,549 --> 01:02:13,200
instagram too

1830
01:02:18,950 --> 01:02:16,559
so um great dude love chatting with him

1831
01:02:20,870 --> 01:02:18,960
um he's he's definitely a positive force

1832
01:02:23,510 --> 01:02:20,880
on twitter and i can't thank them enough

1833
01:02:25,589 --> 01:02:23,520
uh for that

1834
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:25,599
and all the other uh people who've

1835
01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:27,280
really helped develop this community

1836
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:29,200
into what it is now you know whether it

1837
01:02:33,109 --> 01:02:31,119
be chris walford or

1838
01:02:35,750 --> 01:02:33,119
or

1839
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:35,760
andres who's in the chat

1840
01:02:41,190 --> 01:02:39,119
or or others um like james lindoley too

1841
01:02:42,870 --> 01:02:41,200
so i really appreciate all those people

1842
01:02:45,589 --> 01:02:42,880
i appreciate you guys

1843
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:45,599
benji jose uh robert cofort he's gonna

1844
01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:47,760
be on on tuesday we're to chat a long

1845
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,480
time

1846
01:02:53,349 --> 01:02:50,640
no talk with him

1847
01:02:56,549 --> 01:02:53,359
uh benji channel warhorse

1848
01:02:57,910 --> 01:02:56,559
um jonathan et max

1849
01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:57,920
sunsaver

1850
01:03:00,870 --> 01:02:59,359
logan black

1851
01:03:02,549 --> 01:03:00,880
oh gee

1852
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:02,559
everybody i appreciate you guys

1853
01:03:07,510 --> 01:03:05,520
uplifting tweets um

1854
01:03:09,109 --> 01:03:07,520
yeah thanks so much for remember to like

1855
01:03:11,670 --> 01:03:09,119
the video if you can

1856
01:03:13,109 --> 01:03:11,680
um subscribe share it that would be

1857
01:03:15,029 --> 01:03:13,119
great

1858
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:15,039
uh see how we're living

1859
01:03:19,430 --> 01:03:16,799
thanks for being here

1860
01:03:22,069 --> 01:03:19,440
um and i will see you next time looks

1861
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:22,079
like tomorrow i'll be on quantum witch's

1862
01:03:25,190 --> 01:03:23,920
channel at two o'clock for uh for our

1863
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:25,200
book club thing we're doing

1864
01:03:29,270 --> 01:03:27,359
extraterrestrial by avid love

1865
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:29,280
so that is always cool

1866
01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:30,640
um

1867
01:03:34,710 --> 01:03:32,160
check that out that's on her channel at

1868
01:03:36,630 --> 01:03:34,720
two o'clock central tomorrow i think but

1869
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:36,640
you better check just to make sure

1870
01:03:39,430 --> 01:03:38,240
so um

1871
01:03:41,430 --> 01:03:39,440
anyways

1872
01:03:44,870 --> 01:03:41,440
have a great weekend

1873
01:04:17,510 --> 01:03:44,880
i'll see you next time

1874
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:33,900
so